1 00:00:05,590 --> 00:00:03,909 so obviously there's a lot of systems in 2 00:00:07,829 --> 00:00:05,600 place onboard the international space 3 00:00:09,669 --> 00:00:07,839 station to make sure we have a safe and 4 00:00:11,509 --> 00:00:09,679 livable environment for the astronauts 5 00:00:13,270 --> 00:00:11,519 and cosmonauts on board 6 00:00:15,110 --> 00:00:13,280 here to tell me about one of the new 7 00:00:17,750 --> 00:00:15,120 systems that's just been coming online 8 00:00:19,109 --> 00:00:17,760 in the first past few weeks it's dr paul 9 00:00:20,790 --> 00:00:19,119 mudgett he's in the environmental 10 00:00:22,870 --> 00:00:20,800 sciences division here at the johnson 11 00:00:24,710 --> 00:00:22,880 space center and paul first off thanks 12 00:00:26,870 --> 00:00:24,720 for joining me here today now this new 13 00:00:29,589 --> 00:00:26,880 system is called the multi-gas monitor 14 00:00:31,910 --> 00:00:29,599 real quick what does it do correct it 15 00:00:33,990 --> 00:00:31,920 the multi-gas monitor is a 16 00:00:35,830 --> 00:00:34,000 laser spectroscopy based device to 17 00:00:38,869 --> 00:00:35,840 measure four gases 18 00:00:40,150 --> 00:00:38,879 four gases are oxygen carbon dioxide 19 00:00:42,229 --> 00:00:40,160 ammonia 20 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:42,239 and water vapor 21 00:00:45,110 --> 00:00:43,600 and the way 22 00:00:47,590 --> 00:00:45,120 the way it works is 23 00:00:49,029 --> 00:00:47,600 different gases absorb light in 24 00:00:51,189 --> 00:00:49,039 different frequencies effect there's a 25 00:00:53,670 --> 00:00:51,199 fingerprint we call fingerprint for 26 00:00:55,510 --> 00:00:53,680 example there's a fingerprint for o2 a 27 00:00:58,150 --> 00:00:55,520 different one for co2 28 00:00:59,910 --> 00:00:58,160 a really complex one for water vapor and 29 00:01:02,229 --> 00:00:59,920 different from ammonia so 30 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:02,239 they're all mixed together 31 00:01:07,510 --> 00:01:03,760 in addition to other gases in the 32 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:07,520 atmosphere so the idea the trick is to 33 00:01:13,429 --> 00:01:10,080 pick a feature a spectral feature 34 00:01:16,469 --> 00:01:13,439 where co2 absorbs and nothing else 35 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:16,479 so you can be very confident the device 36 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:18,240 can be very selective to measure the 37 00:01:22,469 --> 00:01:20,400 gases give you the right answers not 38 00:01:23,270 --> 00:01:22,479 give you false positives 39 00:01:26,630 --> 00:01:23,280 and 40 00:01:28,149 --> 00:01:26,640 measure the concentrations of each of 41 00:01:30,789 --> 00:01:28,159 those four gases 42 00:01:32,710 --> 00:01:30,799 and we partnered with 43 00:01:34,550 --> 00:01:32,720 two small companies vista photonics in 44 00:01:37,270 --> 00:01:34,560 santa fe new mexico 45 00:01:38,630 --> 00:01:37,280 they're the expert spectroscopists they 46 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:38,640 figured out how to do this and they 47 00:01:42,069 --> 00:01:40,720 developed it through the small business 48 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:42,079 innovation 49 00:01:46,149 --> 00:01:43,920 research program 50 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:46,159 we invested lots of money over the last 51 00:01:52,550 --> 00:01:48,159 10 years in this technology so we took 52 00:01:54,230 --> 00:01:52,560 advantage of it we foresaw a need 53 00:01:55,670 --> 00:01:54,240 and 54 00:01:57,590 --> 00:01:55,680 design you know help them design the 55 00:01:59,510 --> 00:01:57,600 system you said you kind of first saw a 56 00:02:01,190 --> 00:01:59,520 need what was kind of the driving force 57 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:01,200 behind developing this 58 00:02:04,950 --> 00:02:03,360 several motivations one 59 00:02:06,550 --> 00:02:04,960 you know 60 00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:06,560 currently we're using commercial 61 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:08,160 technologies electrochemical has 62 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:10,399 weaknesses we have to supply 63 00:02:13,910 --> 00:02:11,599 that 64 00:02:16,150 --> 00:02:13,920 the devices much more often than we'd 65 00:02:18,390 --> 00:02:16,160 like to space station 66 00:02:20,949 --> 00:02:18,400 we have a box they're a device for 67 00:02:22,470 --> 00:02:20,959 carbon dioxide another one for oxygen we 68 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:22,480 have another one for combustion products 69 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:25,120 and the idea that the big picture goal 70 00:02:29,830 --> 00:02:27,520 and this is the first step 71 00:02:32,470 --> 00:02:29,840 the big picture goes is like a star trek 72 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:32,480 tricorder right to be able to measure 73 00:02:38,550 --> 00:02:36,480 all the gases you want in one device and 74 00:02:40,070 --> 00:02:38,560 laser spectroscopy i think is going to 75 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:40,080 take us there this is the first step 76 00:02:44,710 --> 00:02:42,800 this is for gas monitor we envision 77 00:02:46,710 --> 00:02:44,720 maybe another one for combustion 78 00:02:49,750 --> 00:02:46,720 products or combining eventually 79 00:02:51,830 --> 00:02:49,760 combining all gases that we want to know 80 00:02:53,509 --> 00:02:51,840 in the environment in one one unit okay 81 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:53,519 so you're just kind of building and 82 00:02:56,949 --> 00:02:55,120 expanding constantly and it's been 83 00:02:58,550 --> 00:02:56,959 running for a couple of weeks now how's 84 00:02:59,830 --> 00:02:58,560 everything right this is a technology 85 00:03:02,070 --> 00:02:59,840 demonstration 86 00:03:02,790 --> 00:03:02,080 um it's a flight experiment 87 00:03:05,110 --> 00:03:02,800 and 88 00:03:07,750 --> 00:03:05,120 the idea is to let it run long term six 89 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:07,760 months at least on on orbit and on 90 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:09,040 orbits a different 91 00:03:12,229 --> 00:03:10,480 environment like for example in this 92 00:03:15,110 --> 00:03:12,239 room it's much more complex in terms of 93 00:03:17,430 --> 00:03:15,120 the chemicals that are in it 94 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:17,440 and plus you have maybe micro vibrations 95 00:03:21,030 --> 00:03:19,360 and whatnot that could affect 96 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:21,040 a device but 97 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:23,120 it's been running great we had 98 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:25,120 we're very pleased with its performance 99 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:27,040 we're comparing it with other assets 100 00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:28,720 we're comparing oxygen and carbon 101 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:30,560 dioxide measurements with 102 00:03:35,270 --> 00:03:33,440 with the major constituent analyzer and 103 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:35,280 they match very well 104 00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:36,159 um 105 00:03:39,750 --> 00:03:38,000 part of the part of the demonstration is 106 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:39,760 to take it out of the rack it's 107 00:03:42,470 --> 00:03:41,360 currently in the japanese experiment 108 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:42,480 module 109 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:44,400 and we'll be taking it out of that the 110 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:46,080 crew will be taken out of that and then 111 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:48,799 relocating it to several locations 112 00:03:52,869 --> 00:03:51,120 leaving them leaving it a week in each 113 00:03:53,830 --> 00:03:52,879 location then returning it to the rack 114 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:53,840 for 115 00:03:58,869 --> 00:03:55,760 to download all the data 116 00:04:01,589 --> 00:03:58,879 okay and so what kind of makes it 117 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:01,599 different than what's already monitoring 118 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:03,360 on board the international space station 119 00:04:09,190 --> 00:04:06,720 our devices is smaller it's lighter 120 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:09,200 it draws less power and we have as we 121 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:10,799 read this one real quick the one that 122 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:12,480 we're showing that one's here inside the 123 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:14,000 room right now just kind of giving us 124 00:04:18,789 --> 00:04:16,000 what our atmosphere is here inside of 125 00:04:20,310 --> 00:04:18,799 mission control right it's fairly simple 126 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:20,320 looking device at least from the outside 127 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:24,560 it just draws air in with a simple fan 128 00:04:30,550 --> 00:04:25,680 it 129 00:04:32,710 --> 00:04:30,560 the cell is 130 00:04:34,950 --> 00:04:32,720 such that it's there's no alignments no 131 00:04:37,510 --> 00:04:34,960 mirrors no lenses no 132 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:37,520 nothing that could get out of alignment 133 00:04:43,189 --> 00:04:40,240 from from vibration or from bumping it 134 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:43,199 so it's very rugged technology 135 00:04:46,469 --> 00:04:45,040 okay well what are some of kind of 136 00:04:47,270 --> 00:04:46,479 looking towards the future you said you 137 00:04:49,510 --> 00:04:47,280 want to 138 00:04:51,830 --> 00:04:49,520 expand upon it and add in more gases 139 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:51,840 what are some of the future applications 140 00:04:56,230 --> 00:04:54,080 for this device say on space flights to 141 00:04:57,749 --> 00:04:56,240 mars long duration things like that yeah 142 00:05:01,510 --> 00:04:57,759 so for 143 00:05:02,469 --> 00:05:01,520 for even for orion you know you need 144 00:05:04,710 --> 00:05:02,479 um 145 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:04,720 very reliable systems anything beyond 146 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:06,400 low earth orbit has to be 147 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:08,000 incredibly reliable 148 00:05:12,150 --> 00:05:09,280 and that's that's one of the goals of 149 00:05:13,990 --> 00:05:12,160 this tech demo is to demonstrate that it 150 00:05:16,150 --> 00:05:14,000 doesn't need calibration it stays in 151 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:16,160 calibration doesn't drift those are all 152 00:05:19,990 --> 00:05:17,440 the kind of problems we've had before 153 00:05:21,670 --> 00:05:20,000 with previous technologies 154 00:05:23,110 --> 00:05:21,680 um 155 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:23,120 for uh 156 00:05:25,510 --> 00:05:24,720 you know as i said we want to combine 157 00:05:27,189 --> 00:05:25,520 yes 158 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:27,199 we want to be able to shrink it this is 159 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:29,199 not the limit to the miniaturization we 160 00:05:33,189 --> 00:05:31,360 can do 161 00:05:34,150 --> 00:05:33,199 so we're excited about it we we think it 162 00:05:35,909 --> 00:05:34,160 is the 163 00:05:37,990 --> 00:05:35,919 future 164 00:05:39,510 --> 00:05:38,000 so beyond spacecraft you know the navy 165 00:05:41,510 --> 00:05:39,520 the submarines are 166 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:41,520 a great analogy to 167 00:05:44,070 --> 00:05:42,560 to um 168 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:44,080 to the spacecraft so you have some 169 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:46,160 applications down here on earth still 170 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:48,880 correct and under the sea yeah so and 171 00:05:52,710 --> 00:05:50,400 then mining anywhere there's enclosed 172 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:52,720 space you need to know build up of 173 00:05:55,670 --> 00:05:54,160 hazardous gases 174 00:05:56,950 --> 00:05:55,680 you know if you're it's a breathable 175 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:56,960 atmosphere 176 00:05:59,749 --> 00:05:58,160 um 177 00:06:00,950 --> 00:05:59,759 you know early morning kind of kind of 178 00:06:02,469 --> 00:06:00,960 detection 179 00:06:03,909 --> 00:06:02,479 and there's there are applications i 180 00:06:05,909 --> 00:06:03,919 think everyone eventually will benefit 181 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:05,919 from from laser spectroscopy it's just a 182 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:07,360 matter of time 183 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:10,080 okay well again dr paul mudgett the 184 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:11,840 environmental sciences branch here at 185 00:06:15,909 --> 00:06:13,600 john the johnson space center talking to 186 00:06:17,909 --> 00:06:15,919 us about the multi-gas monitor 187 00:06:19,749 --> 00:06:17,919 thanks for checking in real quick and 188 00:06:21,830 --> 00:06:19,759 letting us know how you guys are keeping 189 00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:21,840 the crew safe really appreciate your